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  • 5/8/2008 9:54 AM Gary Glanville wrote:
    Most of the comments about various resturants around town I can say I agree with. Ive eaten at most of them.
    I wish however I could say the only place I eat is at Alpine. As much as I love Alpine I do not eat anymore in our resturant. I sure want too. The truth is and it saddens me to say, the menu and food service has much to be desired. The waitress is wonderful. But the specials never change nor does the menu. I wish we could really beef up this area. I used to be proud to bring all my guest to the lodge for meals. No longer is this the case. I do believe we can be more creative if we try.
    For mothers day im going to another countryclub where a buffet for $17.oo will have a variety of great food and its in Maryland where prices are higher. I know we cannot at this time do a weekly buffet like this until our numbers are up. Our numbers could come up if we can do something about the quality of food.
    Again I love Alpine and will one day live here. I hope I can do several meals a week at the lodge when Im here because we are doing it right. This is only meant to encourage us to face up to the fact we need change.
    Hey our pizza at Alpine is the best.
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  • 5/5/2008 3:18 PM Jeffrey Martin wrote:
    Years ago, I contacted management about the possibility of allowing me to use a golf cart so that my son, who has cerebral palsy and walks only with great difficulty, could go along with my wife, my other son and me on walks along the roads. I was told, in no uncertain terms, "No." So for 15 years or so, my wife and I have obeyed the rules and taken our walks one at a time while the other stays in our cottage with our son. So, it bothers me when I follow a cart down the road. While I would probably welcome a proper change in our restrictions, I've said before that allowing exceptions to our restrictions in a bad practice that endangers everyone's investment.
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  • 5/4/2008 12:13 PM jerry wrote:
    There is a legal term for what constantly goes on at Camp Alpine, and that term is called "theft by deception". What a shame and waste of OUR assessments. I am only being upfront and honest, but quite sure that my opinion will be deleated. I am sure that numerous others would voice the same opinion but don't want to ruffle any feathers!!!
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  • 5/1/2008 8:31 PM Michael Ackley wrote:
    Seems like the miniature golf course is going the same way as the pool and the ski slope. Advertised, paid for in assessments as an amenity, but not available. What's next?
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  • 4/29/2008 12:30 PM Brian Bucklew wrote:
    This is the posting from our GM Jim on this issue.
    You can find it on the Alpine Lake website.

    Unlicensed Vehicles on Alpine Lake Roads - Over the past few months, I have been asked if it's OK to drive golf carts or unlicensed motor scooters on Alpine Lake roads, a question no doubt spurred by ever-increasing fuel prices.

    Regarding the question on driving golf carts on AL roads -- if you refer to our Declarations of Restrictions, Para 13. B. states, "No vehicle except a duly licensed vehicle shall be operated on any street and no such vehicle may be operated except by a duly licensed driver." Also, there has been some talk about scooters with less than 50cc engines being "street legal" in WV, and many residents have asked if they can drive them on Alpine Lake without a license. According to the state police and the state DMV, ALL motor scooters and mopeds operating on WV roads must be licensed. In the case of mopeds or motor scooters of 50cc or less, owners must submit documentation certifying the vehicles meet federal safety standards before the state will issue a license. Without doubt, our rules specifically preclude the use of conveyances such as unlicensed motor scooters, mopeds, ATVs, and golf carts.

    However, you can drive any of these vehicles on private property in West Virginia. All Alpine Lake roads are private, but rules for usage fall under Alpine Lake's Declarations of Restrictions, which would need to be amended before unlicensed vehicles could be permitted on our roads.
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  • 4/27/2008 12:19 PM m&m wrote:
    in one word - NO!
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  • 4/24/2008 7:05 AM Diana wrote:
    To obtain an absentee ballot, call Sue Eichorn at 304-789-2481 ext 151. She'll be in Sat-Wed 7am-3pm. She'll take care of you.
    You can also stop in and see her in person.
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  • 2/3/2008 8:27 PM alpinenoob wrote:
    Being relatively newcomers to Alpine (and loving it) we are thankful that there is a group who is asking these difficult questions. Thank you. It is understandable that there needs to be some time to answer the question about where our assessment $ go, but in corporation if a question like this was asked, an answer could not take 3 months. If the books were being done according to accounting standards should this not be done rather easily? We do not understand how come the Board, as professionals & fiduciaries, are not held accountable by a set date to answer the question. Wasn't there an independent audit by an accountant this year that we should be able to look at the results of and also pose this question to? We also find it interesting that after reviewing financial snapshots in the newsletter we directly asked the subsidy question of general management prior to purchasing at Alpine and were told that Commercial operations were never subsidized by property owners. On a separate not, thank you Diana for this blog - we are learning so much more about Alpine than we have in the prior 24 months from reading other sources.
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  • 2/2/2008 4:09 PM PineDriveDiva wrote:
    Last night my husband and I went out to dinner to one of our favorite restaurants which we didn't frequent as much because of the smoking in the bar. We were excited about the smoking ban in Maryland and wondered how it would affect restaurants and bars. Much to our surprise, the restaurant/bar was packed. It seemed all the nonsmokers came out to eat but don't be fooled, the smokers were there as well but smoking outside. After dinner we went to a bar to have a drink and see what it was like there. Well, the bar was very crowded too and again all the smokers outside smoking and then would come back in. My husband and I were thrilled to be in a nonsmoking environment. I'm sure if the lounge at the Lodge went to nonsmoking (which I think it should), people may be pleasantly surprised how many people may use the lounge boosting sales. The smokers will still smoke and still come to the lounge but will go outside to smoke.
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  • 1/10/2008 8:59 AM Jeffrey Martin wrote:
    Great discussion! THIS is what this blog does best: Tap into the wealth of talent and creativity of our interested membership. I attended a property owners' meeting at the lodge a year or two ago and came away especially impressed by our general manager and our maintenance supervisor. I sensed a genuine love for Alpine Lake and desire to do superior work on behalf of our owners.

    The members who attended impressed me the most, though. What a bright, altruistic group! There was a discussion that featured civil, thoughtful debate. I heard suggestions regarding the marketing of Alpine Lake to senior groups, to educational institutions… Alpine Lake as a center for retreats seemed to make sense to everyone in attendance.

    Family health and other issues have made it difficult for me to attend subsequent meetings, and I am sure there are other owners in similar circumstance. This blog gives people like us a forum to propose ideas that would benefit our organization, to tap into the wealth of talent, creativity, and experience possessed by the membership.

    I, too, commend the Fryes for their service to Alpine Lake. How was the transportation back and forth handled? What is their impression of the motel facilities? Is there a bus company that could include transportation with a room and meal package?

    I remember back in the late ‘80’s hearing of young people renting ski equipment here and going to the Wisp where the more spectacular ski runs were the attraction. Maybe we can market Alpine Lake as the “Un-Wisp,” a place where groups can be fairly near the Deep Creek attractions but where youth groups can stay in a more controllable environment [A big attraction to field trip sponsors!] and where older skiers can have a less-expensive escape from the hectic atmosphere that Deep Creek attractions have. Go to Maryland to hit the slopes, hit the lake, and hit the high spots, then return to Alpine to hit the links or to hit the sack.
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  • 1/2/2008 11:12 AM luvalpine wrote:
    Have we forgotten about the Boathouse? A perfect community building that's great for game nights, sewing, meetings, whatever.

    The Boathouse could be better utilized by property owners if we stop renting it to the public.

    And you couldn't ask for a better setting; beautiful views, kitchen facilities, better bathrooms than the lodge, fireplace & convenient parking--- what else do you need?

    Why should we build something we already have?!
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  • 1/1/2008 8:59 AM monstermustgo wrote:
    The 'monster on the hill' has to go. If we ever want to be successful, there's no way around it.

    Also, when we do build that small grill restaurant with attached pro shop, let's make sure the best view of the lake is from inside the building and not the parking lot!
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  • 12/31/2007 9:15 AM Bob Hart wrote:
    We are beating a dead horse. Elementary, the lodge is not a sound investment due mostly to its ecological faults. It was not built in an age of high fuel costs. It leaks (water and air). (Yet we buy new tables for the dining room while the bathrooms are the pits.) That decision making process is faulty. Solution: Build a good dining area and pro shop overlooking the lake and golf course. It can at first be a "snack bar" and pro shop BUT designed for expantion into a dining area to hold events. THEN expand with exercise rooms and crafts rooms and meeting rooms. ONE STEP AT A TIME. We have to move sooner rather than later. The longer we wait, the higher the cost will be.
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  • 12/30/2007 12:50 PM anonymous wrote:
    The one thing that bothers me is that you never know when the lounge will be smoke filled or not. Last night, I was at the lounge enjoying the football game with friends. We stayed for over three hours! Why? Because no one was smoking. I know people are tired of hearing it, but I wish the lounge was always smoke-free.
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  • 12/27/2007 10:39 AM Diana wrote:
    Bob- the issue isn't about hunting, its about legal right-of-ways. That's why I started a new discussion on the topic.
    Thanks for your input.
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  • 12/23/2007 7:45 PM luvalpine wrote:
    the board's response raises more questions than it answers. if there is a deeded right of way, it is time to show us all.
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  • 12/4/2007 6:33 PM awvoriginal wrote:
    So, what's management and security have to say about this break-in?

    Was this information conveyed to the membership at the November open meeting?
    I haven't seen anything regarding a break-in in the newsletter of FWIW.

    How did the intruders get into Alpine or do we have criminals within our community?

    Is it time to arm ourselves ??????????
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  • 12/4/2007 11:37 AM steelersfan18 wrote:
    If you look at the October financial report & pool usage, you'll see that there was a $8295 loss for the month. The pool was used 171 times by members. That's $48.50 each time someone took a dunk! And if you include total usage of the pool, at 328 people, that's $25.29 per person.
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  • 12/3/2007 7:18 PM Anonymous wrote:
    FOR THOSE WHO HAD AN OPINION ABOUT THE SMOKING IN THE LAKERS LOUNGE HOW MANY TIMES A WEEK OR HOW MANY TIMES A MONTH DO THEY VISIT AND HAVE DINNER HERE? I FEEL IF THEY BAN THE SMOKING IN THE LAKERS LOUNGE THAT WE WILL LOSE MORE BUSINESS PLUS OUR REGULAR CUSTOMERS THAT SUPPORT OUR LOUNGE ON AN EVERDAY BASIS! I FEEL THEY NEED TO THINK ABOUT THIS SUBJECT MORE THOROUGHLY, BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH BUSINESS AS IT IS!
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  • 12/2/2007 11:16 AM John Brohawn wrote:
    Can someone explain how cost pools like Administration, Roads,and Security have income? Is it an anomaly, e.g., a credit, or legal award, or rebate?
    Why are "Pool" and "Lake/Recreation" under COMMUNITY and not COMMERCIAL?

    Has Foodservice always required such a heavy subsidy from the members? Roughly speaking, $100,000 in the red spread over 500 residents is $2000---for a 6 month period.
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  • 11/30/2007 12:02 AM Steve Youtsey wrote:
    As a relatively new property owner (and soon to be finished home owner), I'd like to state my perspective of the lodge. We did not buy into Alpine Lake because of the Lodge. If it weren't there, we'd have still bought. So, the lodge - while I enjoy the restaurant, game room, pool, etc. - is not a necessity and not something that I would want to make a sacrifice for. I suggest that the overriding imperative for making plans for the Lodge's future is to do no harm to the future of the community. The community will thrive without a lodge, but will not with a crushing debt. Remember, the community is more about the people, its wonderful location, and the great outdoor attractions it has to offer than it is about any building. Keep the main thing the main thing.
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